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Post by wortman_j on May 16, 2005 16:54:40 GMT -5
I have always found mulattos (Anglo, Spanish, Asian etc) exceptionally attractive and in my old age......lol, have embraced the philosophy of going without until that special mulatta comes along (I know corny) How many of you Mulatto/as out there find our race as beautiful as I and Robert do? And furthermore, how many of you find ourselves attractive enough to exclusively date only amongst ourselves? I"m interested in knowing what the general consensus is.....Especially from my beautiful Mulatta sisters....lol
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Post by wortman_j on May 17, 2005 20:14:23 GMT -5
Taken from Interracial Voice
"Speaking as a woman of black/white parentage (Puerto Rican/Asian Indian in appearance), I'd like to assert that even though I'm planning to marry a "true" black man, I was NOT raised to consider myself a light-skinned black. I actually feel like I have more in common with "white" culture than "black". I do, and have always identified myself as "mixed" or biracial and I am nobody's "puppet". I just happen to love this "black" dude. ;-) " "My partner does appreciate my looks - and my color is part of it, just >like the shape of my face. I certainly appreciate his. I don't, however, >feel that he is "color-struck". And I think true relationships are very >beyond that."
This kind of thing bothers me, the small portion of myself that is p.c. says it shouldn't, but it does all the same. I always am a questioner of motive and motivations. What do you think the motivation of this gal and guy was? Don't know, oh really you'd like me to give you my insight....lol. Much Sarcasm......
"Mulatto Elitism" and off the record "interracial dating".
Now for you "romantics" out there that say "Thats b.s. it is true love" ........I say: It might be but then why mention our/her "good hair" and "European Features"? and why mention what her "Black" lover thinks of her in physical aspects?
And yes it could be her way of addressing the topic, but honestly, I don't think so......
Also, i'm probably just a very cantankerous mulatto male that can't find a mulatto female thats attracted to her mulatto brother(s).
Again, at the risk of being redundant, I would love to hear one..............JUST ONE ............. love story involving two mixed race or mulatto/a persons........
Make my day........please.!!!!!!!!!!!!
A side note: Invariably the argument of "Well one of your parents is black and one of your parents is white etc." will no doubt come up. To this I say, So what? I'm an existentialist and do not derive all my identity from my parents or from their belief system........
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Post by BlendedBeauty on May 20, 2005 22:01:08 GMT -5
I guess I'm a mulatta sister! I was unable to find a mulatto guy for myself and it still really hurts when I think about it. So I try not to. But I love chatting with beautiful mulatto men in sanctuaries like these. Stace
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Post by wortman_j on May 21, 2005 1:28:22 GMT -5
Hello Stace,
Glad you found the website. I just have one question for you? And you certainly don't have to answer it. I'm motivated by my overwhelming sense of curiousity?lol
"I guess I'm a mulatta sister! [glow=red,2,300]I was[/glow] unable to find a mulatto guy for myself and it still really hurts when I think about it. So I try not to. But I love chatting with beautiful mulatto men in sanctuaries like these. Stace"
Was, i'm assuming, is past tense?
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Post by BlendedBeauty on May 22, 2005 20:51:41 GMT -5
Yes I am married now to a white guy. I feel a bit guilty about still thinking about mulatto men. But I guess this is harmless right? I doubt anyone I talk to online will be in my location anyways! Stacey
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Post by wortman_j on May 23, 2005 13:45:36 GMT -5
Lerner & Johnson, I.S.U., (2003) did and interesting study on how many, in the U.S., mixed race persons dated/married other mixed race persons (Mulattos specifically). They broke their research down into survey and structured interviewing. They used both coasts as a means for data collection as they have a high content of mixed race persons. They came up with three dominant/main ideologies behind this question: 1) Some mixed race persons (Mulattos) grow up in a predominately "Black" or "White" environment and morph the culture insofar as automatically picking a monoracial person for the purpose of dating and/or marriage. Additionally, they were not really cognizant of the choice rendering the researchers to suppose this was their way of ultimate assimilation. 2) This particular area of data collection and analyzation was derived from a population that was an almost equal mix of "Black", "White" and a substantial population of mixed race persons (B/W-Mulattos) the percentage was as such: "Black"= 55% "White"= 30% Mulatto = 15% They found a cultural phenomenon of what A.D. Powell calls "Mulatto Elitism". The belief, by mulattos and monoracials, that "mulatto" is a "better" more "beautiful" variety of the "black" race. 3) In another fairly racially mixed population they found Mulattos expressed the opinion that "Monoracial Blacks made them feel guilty if they preferred someone of their same phenotype. Now this is just a small area of geographical study and in no way can be construed as speaking for the masses. However, it is very interesting in that even an area populated with persons of our racial makeup, we still find an excuse or even guilted into not dating or marrying one another. I wonder what we need to do in order to crush this horrible injustice and make it "Ok" for people like "us" to date others like "ourselves"? God knows, society has given a thumbs up to monoracial "Blacks", "Whites", "Asians", and "Latinos" to date within their own phenotype sic race. Why isn't it ok for us.?
J
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Post by BlendedBeauty on May 23, 2005 14:01:15 GMT -5
That is really interresting. I definitely have gotten grief from black guys when I've chosen to give more attention to a mulatto guy. They automatically assume it's because he's mulatto but even if it is, it should just be accepted. Yet they'd give me even more grief if the guy was white.
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Post by Caribe on May 23, 2005 16:16:51 GMT -5
3) In another fairly racially mixed population they found Mulattos expressed the opinion that "Monoracial Blacks made them feel guilty if they preferred someone of their same phenotype. Now this is just a small area of geographical study and in no way can be construed as speaking for the masses. However, it is very interesting in that even an area populated with persons of our racial makeup, we still find an excuse or even guilted into not dating or marrying one another. I wonder what we need to do in order to crush this horrible injustice and make it "Ok" for people like "us" to date others like "ourselves"? God knows, society has given a thumbs up to monoracial "Blacks", "Whites", "Asians", and "Latinos" to date within their own phenotype sic race. Why isn't it ok for us.? J I also believe that biracials and BI (black identified) light skinned folks also put pressure on themselves not to date others like themselves. I know I did, and I know MANY people who do the same. In the past this wasn't the case and and this opposition to "endogamy" if you will, is a reaction to the feelings of superiority exhibited by the lighter skinned in the black community. Sadly, you may find yourself in a catch-22 situation: if you pursue someone like yourself you make yourself or you are made to feel guilty and if you don't, you have to deal with folks turning you down-especially of you are male-because you are not black enough. I also notice that the men who rail against you wanting mulatto woman, often want these women themselves.
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Post by wortman_j on May 23, 2005 18:34:49 GMT -5
Caribe, hello my brother,
Those Mulattos that felt they were "better" or more "superior" are, as A.D Powell so fondly calls them, "Mulatto Elites" they claim black but when in private they cherish those "White" genes.
Caribe, on another note, I've read some of your responses on IV from about 5-7 years ago. Looks like you've come along way..... P.S. I don't mean that disrespectfully.
J
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Post by BlendedBeauty on May 23, 2005 18:51:46 GMT -5
You're right when you say "I also notice that the men who rail against you wanting mulatto woman, often want these women themselves. " We've encountered many black men who are clearly angry that I'm with a white guy, even though I'm not black. And it is because they want me or think I should be with a black guy. One black guy actually came up to me infront of my husband and said it to my face. My husband was soooooooo infuriated.
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Post by wortman_j on May 23, 2005 19:20:49 GMT -5
Stace, I'm sorry to hear that *people* are so rude. On another note, You might want to read some of A.D. Powell's literature, she is truly my heroine of the mixed race movement. Here is some links interracialvoice.com/powell4.htmlwww.webcom.com/~intvoice/powell6.htmlAlso, most black identified folks think they can say anything they want to mixed race persons, but would never say such things to Arabs, Hispanics, and Filipinos etc. You see they're in the "Protected" class. J
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Post by BlendedBeauty on May 24, 2005 19:54:58 GMT -5
Thanks I'll take a look. I love reading about mulatto issues and history.
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Post by mistermulatto on May 25, 2005 1:23:42 GMT -5
That's the spirit!
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Post by Caribe on Jun 8, 2005 13:13:21 GMT -5
Caribe, hello my brother, Those Mulattos that felt they were "better" or more "superior" are, as A.D Powell so fondly calls them, "Mulatto Elites" they claim black but when in private they cherish those "White" genes. Caribe, on another note, I've read some of your responses on IV from about 5-7 years ago. Looks like you've come along way..... P.S. I don't mean that disrespectfully. J Really? Man, it's hard to believe that I was on there seven years ago. That was the first "mixed issues" message board I came across and the first message board on which I posted. Can't remember how I found it. BTW, are you sure you know who I am/was on Interracial Voice? Hint: I'm the guy from that other message board we frequent (ODR).
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Post by Caribe on Jun 8, 2005 13:15:59 GMT -5
You're right when you say "I also notice that the men who rail against you wanting mulatto woman, often want these women themselves. " We've encountered many black men who are clearly angry that I'm with a white guy, even though I'm not black. And it is because they want me or think I should be with a black guy. One black guy actually came up to me infront of my husband and said it to my face. My husband was soooooooo infuriated. d**n in Canada!!! I had no idea it was like that up there. Or maybe that is not a common ocurrance. I have relatives in Toronto and Montreal who tell me things are much better up there racially speaking.
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